A conversation between Fiky Daulay (KUNCI) and Bortusk, a street artist based in Amsterdam. Bortusk talks about his spatial experience in Amsterdam. The discussion went further revolving around the ease of mobility in the city, the gentrification of surroundings of Tropenmuseum, his artworks and multicultural residential area. This audio file was edited by Fiky Daulay. Download the audio file via this link.