Ferdiansyah Thajib and Syafiatudina (KUNCI) are in conversation with Yvette Mutumba (ContemporaryAnd, C&) about how to keep doing what needs to be done, institutional practices and the current hype on decolonizing in Europe context. The conversation was conducted in Victoria Park, on 21st May 2017, in Berlin, Germany. Editor: Syafiatudina

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